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Participants in the empathy movement shared their experiences and insights. Susan found listening in short phrases challenging but rewarding. Ben enjoyed the joy and inspiration from his breakout group. Brandon, a business professor, emphasized the importance of clear communication to distinguish student work from AI-generated content. Speaker 4 highlighted the need for depolarization tools like Normsy. Michael stressed the importance of careful listening for decision-making. Jillian, a PhD student, aims to redefine empathy in academia. Sebastian realized the movement's growth and importance. Penny expressed concerns about capitalism co-opting the movement. Overall, the group emphasized the need for continued practice and support for empathy.
[ ] Prepare and present a talk covering the different types/forms of empathy (the empathies) at the next/future summit
[ ] Post information and volunteer instructions about Normsy (social media depolarization tool) in the meeting chat so attendees can sign up or get details
[ ] Continue recruiting actors for conflict-resolution demonstration videos and share the recruitment link/details in the chat for volunteers to respond
Janna Weiss initiates the meeting by asking Susan Shaw to share her thoughts.
Susan Shaw finds the practice of listening in short phrases challenging but exciting.
Ben expresses joy and inspiration from hearing about the empathy movement in his breakout group.
Brandon, a graduate business professor, discusses the importance of building relationships with students and distinguishing their work from AI-generated content.
Speaker 4 shares her struggle with attention span and how the training has helped her become a certified trainer.
Michael emphasizes the importance of careful listening and supporting decision-making in groups.
Nita finds the experience soothing and plans to continue participating.
Jillian, a PhD student at Indiana University Bloomington, is passionate about empathy and depolarization, and plans to help build the empathy movement within academia.
Martin finds the connection between nonviolent communication and empathy interesting.
Sebastian realizes the growing movement of empathy and feels less alone in his efforts.
Penny appreciates the present-moment connection and expresses concerns about systemic violence and capitalism.
Marcy enjoys the empathy circle and sees its potential as a useful technique.
Jillian discusses the challenges of empathy in academia and plans to publish a Substack article on exercising empathy.
Edwin Rutsch talks about the need for a culture where everyone is heard and the importance of empathy in bringing people together.
Lou suggests keeping the drumbeat of empathy alive and invites people to participate in conflict resolution sessions.
Sandra shares her journey of taking empathy step by step and resonates with the experience of being a therapist.
Bob expresses gratitude for the patience and support in learning empathy.
Sally emphasizes the importance of being heard and the positive impact of empathy on everyone's lives.
Tina Jones talks about building a tapestry of empathy and the importance of shared experiences.
Tony shares his experience of learning silent empathy and the importance of self-empathy.
Ingrid Hirtz encourages everyone to keep showing up and participating in the empathy movement.
Maria appreciates the empathy circle for helping her stay in touch with her inner self.
Rekshaya finds the experience introspective and deeply connecting.
Daniel Hirtz feels a sense of relaxation and presence in the group, which can positively impact the world.
Bill Filler mentions an academic study called the Mother Teresa Effect, which shows the positive impact of empathy on resilience.
Janna Weiss shares a Scientific American article about empathy circles and the science of empathy.
Edwin Rutsch thanks everyone for their participation and invites them to join future summits.
The meeting concludes with Edwin expressing his appreciation for the growing empathy movement and the importance of listening to each other.
Janna Weiss 0:02
Susan, would you like to share? Is there one? Susan Shaw, and then I'll call on Ben.
Speaker 1 0:13
I found this very challenging. This was new to me, as far as listening in such short phrases, almost rather than hearing somebody for three to four minutes and then trying to say a gist of the whole thing that they said, I found this very challenging, and at the same time, very exciting.
Janna Weiss 0:43
Oh, thank you for sharing. Yeah, well, it's like riding a bicycle. You know, it takes a little practice, a lot of practice, not that much. Be surprised. Ben, would you like to share?
Speaker 2 0:57
Yeah, thank Thank you. Jana, the this is a familiar practice for me. So found a lot of joy and pleasure in it, and real inspiration in hearing from the people in my breakout and the work they're doing and and how they're wanting to build the empathy movement and and cultivate empathy in the in the work they're doing. Glad to be here.
Janna Weiss 1:21
Thanks. Thank you for joining us. Thank you. Enjoy Brandon.
Unknown Speaker 1:29
Yeah, you know I wasn't one of the leaders.
Janna Weiss 1:33
Yeah, just if you'd like to share how, whatever, what is the question, share your ideas and projects for building the empathy movement. So it could be some idea that's coming now, or you're here for a reason.
Speaker 3 1:45
So, yeah, all right. All right. Well, I am a graduate business professor. I work with doctorate students to get them through their dissertations, and that's that's a relationship building process. You have to really get to know your students, especially with AI out there. You have to learn their reading so that you can distinguish it from, you know, what might have been created by Gen AI, chat, BT, Gemini and all those office assistance. And so this, this exercise, especially changing the roles, as we just did with Ben and Marcy and the others of our team. It, it allows for you to really see in full circle what what this is about, and it was interesting to be the speaker and then following it up with being the listener and trying to switch hats real quick. But I'm glad we did that, because when I was a listener, I found myself speaking differently and trying to be a little clearer, and just very carefully structuring my sentences and words so that the listener then didn't have such a hard time. So I was even empathetic as the presenter of the information as well as listener of the information. So that was my good take takeaway from this process.
Janna Weiss 3:22
Yeah, that's a wonderful takeaway. I like to say sometimes that we also become empathic speakers, not just empathic listeners. Go ahead. You have your hand raised. Thank you. Yes.
Speaker 4 3:34
I think you, yeah, as someone who has always struggled my whole life with keeping with my attention span and thoughts that go in my head and trigger off other people's thoughts and not fully listening to the whole thing this, this is really great for me, and I'm learning, I'm getting trained to become a certified trainer for through the CNBC NonViolent Communication Center. So this has been wonderful for me. I love this. I've been really inspired by all the different speeches speakers here. I did want to bring up normsy. It is a social media detoxifier, depolarization tool that was created by civic health project. Is a philanthropic project, and they are looking for volunteers who would be willing to get, you know, there's an X account that you would have to create and a portal, and then you can work on, you know, the digital, you know, social media, where there's so much depolarization, so much polarization, so much conflict. And that's really a place where we need to also focus. So if you're interested, send me a message, and I'll let you know more about it.
Janna Weiss 4:53
Put it in the chat. Okay, thank you. Like to share in the chat? Thank you. Michael, would you like. To share her you. This is, yeah.
Speaker 5 5:03
Um, so second, yeah. So what for me, one of the key things is how I can learn myself to be a much, much more able to listen carefully to people I talk with and help and find ways to help support decision making in the various joint decision making, the various groups I'm with. But it's also a really nice, simple tool, and it is something that could be easily learned and taught to share. That's one of the really nice things about it. So I don't think it's it's unreasonable to think of 8 billion people learning it just a bit of organization needed. That's all. Thank you. Yeah, thank you.
Janna Weiss 5:54
That's our vision. Would you like to speak or do you have no nr? So I don't know if you want to share in this part of the of the empathy circle or not. It's not required. Nita, would you like to share how this has been for you?
Speaker 6 6:15
I was glad to be here today. I it was a very, very soothing and wonderful experience in the breakout room. And of course, I enjoyed the speakers and I plan to continue.
Janna Weiss 6:36
Thank you. Thank you, Nita, and let's see Jillian as your ideas projects for building the empathy movement or anything else.
Speaker 7 6:49
Yeah, I've really enjoyed this. I'm a PhD student at Indiana University Bloomington, and I study things like empathy and depolarization. So I'm really passionate about this kind of stuff. And in the academic world right now, as Edwin kind of hinted, it's it's kind of a mess, and they're kind of veering on empathy being a negative trait to have. And so I'm really interested in helping build the empathy movement from inside academia, to kind of get the definition straight of what, what might or might not actually be empathy. But so I put this in the chat. Some people were Yes, go Hoosiers, right? Some people were interested in some of the stuff I was talking about. I have a sub stack article that's coming out next week on the idea of exercising empathy so not having too much or too little, and how we can moderate and focus that that's cool. Marching 100 Wow. Lots of Indiana Connections.
Janna Weiss 7:46
Awesome, wonderful. Thank you. Martin,
Speaker 8 7:53
oh, I think my main thing is take from this is it's kind of drinking through a fire hose. I mentioned that in our group, but I got a lot of good information. I don't really have any organization to share about, but I do like the connection between nonviolent communication and empathy, at least that. I heard a lot of people talking about
Janna Weiss 8:15
wonderful thank you, and let's see Sebastian, you have nr, so we are recording this, so if you'd like, you can share a few words,
Speaker 9 8:27
yeah, actually, my insight is that when I was thinking about the growing of this movement, when I just joined here today, I realized, oh, there is actually a big movement, and Many people are working on it. So it's actually growing, you know. And I got to know the empathy Summit and the empathy center, I guess, two years ago, when I invited Edwin to my podcast emphasizer. And so it was the first time for me to joining here. And my key point I got out of this empathy circle world that I'm not alone on working on empathy and bring it to the Live World.
Janna Weiss 9:07
Wonderful realization. Thank you. Penny and then Marcy,
Speaker 10 9:14
well, I really appreciated our empathy circle and the reminder of how, how much it brings me into the present moment and connection, and I also am aware of the systemic, what I see, what I experience as a systemic violence and capitalism, And my fears for the potential for the movement to be co opted by by capitalist enterprise, no matter how wonderful the intention is, I believe that capitalism is destroying our planet.
Janna Weiss 9:57
Okay, so I have less optimism, perhaps. Yes, is that what I hear? Perhaps. Thank you for sharing. Let's see. Maybe this is the antidote.
Speaker 11 10:09
Marcy, yes, I really enjoyed participating in the in the empathy circle. I think it's a great, simple technique that could be very useful and is much needed right now. I learned about this program as I was researching for my dissertation. I was I did a dissertation on perspective taking and so, Jillian, I think you and I are kind of along the same track, a little bit very interesting ideas about, you know, trying to figure out, what is empathy? What are the different constructs that go into empathy? And it can get very confusing and messy, but great efforts. I would love to be a part of it as you move forward as much as I can.
Janna Weiss 10:57
Thank you very much. Wonderful Jill.
Speaker 12 11:01
30 seconds chasing references and then Fritz brighthoff, because I've seen problem, um, I have just joyed to encounter so many interesting and like minded and humorous souls about this topic. And I also wonder, anyone would like to bring their conflicts to be mediated, slash in the conflict resolution session, because we're still trying to the question of, how do we motivate people? How do we bring more people in? That's one of the questions mental has been wrestling with, and our answer has been, we create videos, we show them how it's done. We let people experience what it's like to actually be heard. So if this turns you on, I put a I put a link in the chat. I'm hiring actors because people don't want to come on the camera, but I thought maybe this group would be more interested and available for, you know, mild, mild mannered conflicts that your neighbor, Lou, you know we can get a stand in.
Speaker 13 12:11
Lou, I'm going to solve the empathy movement. How to Build an empathy movement in 30 seconds. Here's how you do it. Keep beating the drum. Beat the drum and keep beating it
Janna Weiss 12:29
next. Yeah, thank you. So I don't know if we'll have time for everyone, but I'm trying to get to everyone who's not who didn't put ECF, even though some of you are experienced with empathy circles. Sandra, you want to say briefly how you envision building the empathy movement?
Speaker 14 12:45
Yes, you know, I'd like to, I'm continuing to be part of it and and taking it step by step. And I really resonated with the experience, you know, that was shared this morning by Edwin, when you are a therapist, and, and you're sitting on the other side of the desk and, and you're doing certain tasks and activities, and then I'm making that transition into the real world of people, and and getting up from behind the desk and and taking that step by step, and, and this is part of my process of doing that and and opening up, you know, my heart to to the real life of empathy and what that means. So, so that's why I keep showing up and enjoying the moment and and someday I envision that I will be doing something more for this, but right now, I'm taking it step by step. So thank you
Janna Weiss 13:46
wonderful. Thank you and Bob. Would you like to
Speaker 15 13:49
share so grateful to Edwin and his patience with us as we learned how to be empaths. So thanks, Edwin
Janna Weiss 13:58
and Tony. You want to share anything that's come to mind in the meantime? No, thank you. Thank you so much for what you shared. Let's see so we have time, or do you want to close?
Edwin Rutsch 14:09
Edwin, we can take if we go over just a few minutes and be okay if we can hear from others. Sally,
Speaker 16 14:22
oh, going to just use some of Daniel's words that you know that we're, you know we're the the need to be heard is and is so important. And in our world, we need a culture where everyone is heard, and this is the place to do it. And I find it very powerful. And it's, it's makes your life more wonderful, as Rosie would say Tony, and it is also makes everyone else's life more wonderful. So. So, so I just appreciate this and all the work everyone's doing. Thank you. Thank you. Sandy taija,
Speaker 17 15:09
I noticed that the more that I authentically self Express, the more that I have to be able to give to others in regard to empathy and listening presence and everything. So it's takes me to do this, the type of work that gets rid of whatever's blocking me from empathy, and I'm so grateful for the circle. So thanks everybody.
Janna Weiss 15:36
Thank you. Tanya, Tina,
Tina Jones 15:40
thank you can thank you everyone. I'm very grateful to be here with everyone here today for my group, I had Bob, Bill Sandra and twig say I'm sharing what I what my key takeaway was, in terms of building a movement, I think what takes a shared was tapestry of empathy. Think that can be, that we can continue to weave and connect and share what the empathy movement is about, and for that, I'm grateful, but that is my response to that question. Is what I learned from Tuesday, which is a tapestry, building a tapestry of empathy worldwide. Thank you.
Janna Weiss 16:44
Thank you. Tina Tony, go ahead.
Speaker 18 16:50
Thanks. JW, I just thought of I watched the previous summit. And great job, Kara and Edwin. I watched the previous summit. I had a talk ready to go, watched it, listened to Jodi Jensen, and literally threw my talk away and started all over, just because of the way she defined empathy. And I realized I had in my mind an excellent balance of the way she did it and I did it. What I was going to say is my original talk was going to be on silent empathy, screaming empathically, self empathy and sereno empathy. Sereno empathy being where sometimes I give my friends prompts and they just go with my prompt and just see what happens in they're amazed by the connection that happens. But what I really wanted to share with the group was when I learned silent or self empathy from Rosie. My dad was a wedding singer at his wedding. They were friends that way. So Rosie kind of mentored me privately, and when we talked about Silent empathy, I literally thought it meant create a cartoon of voices in your head and have them talk to each other. So for anybody who hasn't heard that version of self empathy, I literally hear voices going, Tony, are you sure you're feeling frustrated? Well, he just said he's frustrated, didn't he like I literally have that version of voices in my head doing self empathy. So if anybody isn't super comfortable with self empathy, just imagine a cadre of cartoon characters voicing in your mind and empathically listening to you. Thank you. JW, thank you. Edwin, thank you. CJ and jlm, hope the Hoosiers take it in a few weeks.
Janna Weiss 18:38
Thank you Tony, thank you Ingrid. You want to share?
Ingrid Hirtz 18:42
Yeah, I'm going to echo what Lou said in my own words, and that's, keep showing up. Just show up. That's how we build the movement. For me, it's, it's always a pleasure to be there. I love seeing people that I haven't seen in a few months from previous trainings, I love the ones who always show up, and love seeing the new people. I love seeing you all. Thank you for being here.
Janna Weiss 19:09
Thank you Ingrid, Maria, it's a little late where you were.
Speaker 19 19:14
Yeah, I think what really still stood out for me today was that this format of the empathy circle really gives a place to be in touch with us, with what, what is happening inside us, and that is really beautiful. So thank you Edwin, and thank you all and all the people in my circle. It was really inspiring.
Janna Weiss 19:37
Thank you, rekshaya. Are you available? 30 seconds,
Unknown Speaker 19:46
of course, a very sweet experience, and it was a
Speaker 20 19:56
introspection, and you can see that. Yes, many people are getting deeply connected. Thank you.
Janna Weiss 20:05
Thank you, Shaya. It's even later. If Shaya, she's in India, yeah, let's see who else. Daniel,
Daniel Hirtz 20:18
thank you. Everybody. Was a fantastic experience, both the part of the summit that I sound in our in our empathy circle, I get a sense of a little bit of how would it be if there is a sort of saturated group of people that have experienced so much listening that they're actually now relaxing, and they become this, this, I can feel it like this real presence in the world, you know, that can finally let the world off the hook, so to speak. Anyways, thank you wonderful time.
Unknown Speaker 21:01
Thank you, Bill.
Bill Filler 21:04
Yeah, I had a great time. And I don't see tegde there now, but he came from Uganda and had some, you know, challenges. And it's just great to see people who, you know, say, Okay, I have challenges. I'm going to do it anyway. So that goes with Lou. And everyone has said, I put a bunch of information about the training we're doing, the training and things like that. But also for the academics, there's a, it was an academic study done at Harvard, Deepak, Chopra and a few other, you know, heavy hitters called the Mother Teresa effect. And what they found was that our resilience towards chemicals that resist disease were amped up after seeing a video about the work of Mother Teresa. And I believe that the empathy circle does the same thing. So I'm interested in anybody who might be interested in that. Thank you all. Great to see you.
Janna Weiss 22:09
Thank you, Bill. I just shared the Scientific American article that was written about empathy circles, featuring empathy circles and the science of empathy. Let's see. Who else am I missing? Edwin, Kara. Do you want to Kara? I think we're at the end of everybody.
Speaker 21 22:27
I didn't get to sit in on the empathy circle today, but I sure love this entire thing, and what I am hearing the energy and impact of this. This is why I come.
Janna Weiss 22:39
Cara did us a huge favor. She sits in the main room for people who wander in late, so that we don't interrupt the process. And Jonathan, oh, Jonathan, I don't see. Oh, there he is.
Speaker 22 22:53
Well, I'd like to thank everyone, and it was lovely experience for me, and I just want to remind everyone to save your chat and there'll be a few more messages in the chat. Thank you.
Janna Weiss 23:09
Thank you. Jonathan and Tony, I'd like to ask you to next time talk about all those empathies at our next summit, a Future Summit. Edwin, yeah, okay, yeah, you can close. Yeah.
Edwin Rutsch 23:23
I want to thank Kara for being our main room host, and Jana and Jonathan, four of us kind of host these summits, and we invite you to join us and take part. Really appreciate everyone taking part. You know, coming to the summit really warms my heart to see that we have this movement, you know, growing, because I think with the current social political situations, you know, this is what we need, to bring the different factions together. You know, it's just seeing everyone's common humanity and and that's really what empathy brings, is just not seeing enemies, but people that we can listen to and kind of support them and listening to each other. And I brought up in our circle the Occupy empathy idea that maybe to be moving towards having some encampments like the old occupy was, but it's about empathy, where everyone's included. So it's kind of an idea I'm toying around with, and it was fun to kind of to talk about that. And.